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 | 17.5" BATES ELEVATION NEXT GEN. SADDLE DEEP SEAT + CAIR |  |  | US $2,002.50 | 17d 18h 11m |
 | NEW Bates Dressage Saddle - 17.0" - CAIR - Package Deal | | | US $1,754.95 | 16d 5h 14m |
 | 17.5" BATES DRESSAGE SADDLE FLOCKED BLACK EXTRAS | | | US $1,638.00 | 17d 18h 10m |
 | NEW Bates All Purpose Saddle - CAIR - 17.0" - Package Deal - Havana | | | US $1,349.95 | 29d 6h 34m |
 | Bates Caprilli All Purpose 17" Saddle | | | US $350.00 | 10h 52m |
 | Bates Innova Dressage Saddle size 1, 17-17.5, w/Full Gullet Set, irons, leathers | | 1 Bid | US $1,500.00 | 1d 9h 32m |
 | Bates Isabelle Dressage Saddle | | 0 Bid | US $904.70 | 2d 5h 23m |
 | Bates Caprilli All Purpose 17.5 inches Saddle, Used and well cared for | | | US $765.00 | 4d 7h 33m |
 | Wintec/Bates/Collegiate Easy Change Complete Gullet Kit-Dressage or Jump Saddle | | 0 Bid | US $65.00 | 4d 18h 11m |
 | Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle | | | US $1,700.00 | 5d 5h 4m |
 | BATES CAPRILLI 17" MEDIUM TREE NO RESERVE GREAT SADDLE! | | | US $600.00 | 5d 10h 35m |
 | Bates Isabell Werth Dressage Saddle | | | US $1,700.00 | 5d 14h 47m |
 | HERITAGE 100% ENGLISH STIRRUP LEATHERS IDEAL FOR BATES,DEVOUCOUX FYLDE SADDLES | | | US $113.48 | 21d 1h 41m |
 | ENGLISH STIRRUP LEATHERS IDEAL for BATES,DEVOUCOUX,COUNTY IDEAL ANTARES SADDLES | | | US $113.48 | 1d 11h 18m |
 | Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle 18" FLOCK + GIFT PACKAGE | | | US $2,695.00 | 28d 10h 2m |
 | Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle 17" FLOCK+ GIFT PACKAGE | | | US $2,695.00 | 28d 10h 2m |
 | Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle 16.5" FLOCK+ GIFT PACKAGE | | | US $2,695.00 | 28d 10h 2m |
 | NEW Bates Caprilli CC Saddle - 18.0" Reg Flap - Package Deal | | | US $1,349.95 | 29d 9h 40m |
 | Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle 17.5" FLOCK+ GIFT PACKAGE | | | US $2,695.00 | 28d 10h 2m |
 | NEW! Bates Hunter/Jumper Close Contact Saddle with CAIR! 17.5"!! | | | US $969.95 | 29d 15h 48m |
 | NEW Bates Caprilli CC Saddle - 16.5" Reg Flap - Package Deal | | | US $1,349.95 | 29d 9h 17m |
 | NEW! Bates Close Contact Jumping Saddle with CAIR! Available in 17" and 17.5"!! | | | US $1,029.95 | 29d 15h 43m |
 | NEW Bates Caprilli CC Saddle - 17.5" Reg Flap - Package Deal | | | US $1,349.95 | 29d 9h 39m |
 | NEW! Bates 16.5" Caprilli Jumping CC Saddle with CAIR! | | | US $1,029.95 | 29d 15h 35m |
 | BATES Hunter Jumper Saddle - Havana Brown - 17 | | | US $1,368.05 | 25d 21h 35m |
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Bates saddles-hate or love.........?
Has anyone ever used the Bates Close Contact Saddle with the Cair panals? or even just a Bates saddle i general? I'm thinking about test riding one, and I wanted to know if you guys hated it or loved it. Thanks!
haha. why do you all hate them?
What kinds of saddles do you have?
Hate 
1. They are made sorta cheap.
2. Quility is not all thier.
3. The panels are amazingly bad quality.
4. The sadle I had of Bates didn't rest on my horses back like it was soposta. (my horses back was not the prob)
5. The saddle made a huge rub mark on my old horses back.
6. Falls apart if it gets wet.
7. Hard to keep looking good (literally the third time i rode in it, it already had marks from my boots).
8. My trainer would "kill me".
9. To expensive for the bad quality.
10. It stains with just a little water, or leather cleaner.
I currently ride in a Pessoa Legacy XP3 XCH for jumpers
Dressage: Hermes Paris<---would not recomend buying new they are about $6,200.
Crosss Contry: Stubben Roxane S
If i were to buy a saddle right now it would be, Pessoa A/O $1999.00 <---amazing price for top quality. Pessoa lasts forever to, my last saddle lasted for 10years and i sold it for $300, preety good condition still.
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| 17.5" BATES ELEVATION NEXT GEN. SADDLE DEEP SEAT + CAIR | | | US $2,002.50 | 17d 18h 11m |
| NEW Bates Dressage Saddle - 17.0" - CAIR - Package Deal | | | US $1,754.95 | 16d 5h 14m |
| 17.5" BATES DRESSAGE SADDLE FLOCKED BLACK EXTRAS | | | US $1,638.00 | 17d 18h 10m |
| NEW Bates All Purpose Saddle - CAIR - 17.0" - Package Deal - Havana | | | US $1,349.95 | 29d 6h 34m |
| Bates Caprilli All Purpose 17" Saddle | | | US $350.00 | 10h 52m |
| Bates Innova Dressage Saddle size 1, 17-17.5, w/Full Gullet Set, irons, leathers | | 1 Bid | US $1,500.00 | 1d 9h 32m |
| Bates Isabelle Dressage Saddle | | 0 Bid | US $904.70 | 2d 5h 23m |
| Bates Caprilli All Purpose 17.5 inches Saddle, Used and well cared for | | | US $765.00 | 4d 7h 33m |
| Wintec/Bates/Collegiate Easy Change Complete Gullet Kit-Dressage or Jump Saddle | | 0 Bid | US $65.00 | 4d 18h 11m |
| Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle | | | US $1,700.00 | 5d 5h 4m |
| BATES CAPRILLI 17" MEDIUM TREE NO RESERVE GREAT SADDLE! | | | US $600.00 | 5d 10h 35m |
| Bates Isabell Werth Dressage Saddle | | | US $1,700.00 | 5d 14h 47m |
| HERITAGE 100% ENGLISH STIRRUP LEATHERS IDEAL FOR BATES,DEVOUCOUX FYLDE SADDLES | | | US $113.48 | 21d 1h 41m |
| ENGLISH STIRRUP LEATHERS IDEAL for BATES,DEVOUCOUX,COUNTY IDEAL ANTARES SADDLES | | | US $113.48 | 1d 11h 18m |
| Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle 18" FLOCK + GIFT PACKAGE | | | US $2,695.00 | 28d 10h 2m |
| Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle 17" FLOCK+ GIFT PACKAGE | | | US $2,695.00 | 28d 10h 2m |
| Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle 16.5" FLOCK+ GIFT PACKAGE | | | US $2,695.00 | 28d 10h 2m |
| NEW Bates Caprilli CC Saddle - 18.0" Reg Flap - Package Deal | | | US $1,349.95 | 29d 9h 40m |
| Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle 17.5" FLOCK+ GIFT PACKAGE | | | US $2,695.00 | 28d 10h 2m |
| NEW! Bates Hunter/Jumper Close Contact Saddle with CAIR! 17.5"!! | | | US $969.95 | 29d 15h 48m |
| NEW Bates Caprilli CC Saddle - 16.5" Reg Flap - Package Deal | | | US $1,349.95 | 29d 9h 17m |
| NEW! Bates Close Contact Jumping Saddle with CAIR! Available in 17" and 17.5"!! | | | US $1,029.95 | 29d 15h 43m |
| NEW Bates Caprilli CC Saddle - 17.5" Reg Flap - Package Deal | | | US $1,349.95 | 29d 9h 39m |
| NEW! Bates 16.5" Caprilli Jumping CC Saddle with CAIR! | | | US $1,029.95 | 29d 15h 35m |
| BATES Hunter Jumper Saddle - Havana Brown - 17 | | | US $1,368.05 | 25d 21h 35m |
 | Bates Caprilli Close Contact Saddle | | | US $1,300.00 | 23d 10h 33m |
 | Bates Elevation Saddle - New - only been used 10 times! | | | US $1,500.00 | 27d 12h 34m |
 | NEW! Bates Dressage Saddle with CAIR! 17.5"!! | | | US $1,380.95 | 29d 15h 54m |
 | Bates Pony Dressage Saddle - 16 - Classic Black | | | US $1,355.99 | 25d 8h 36m |
 | Bates Caprilli Light Oil 17 1/2" Close Contact Jumping Saddle CAIR Easy Change | | | US $975.00 | 24d 14h 44m |
 | Used Bates Innova Dressage Saddle 17.5" / 18" Black | | | US $1,700.00 | 24d 8h 18m |
 | NEW Bates WIDE Dressage Saddle - CAIR - 17.0" - Package Deal | | | US $1,799.95 | 26d 9h 36m |
 | NEW Bates WIDE Dressage Saddle - CAIR - 18.0" - Package Deal | | | US $1,799.95 | 26d 9h 31m |
 | Bates All Purpose Saddle with Cair - 18 | | | US $1,381.99 | 26d 1h 9m |
 | BATES 17.5" ALL PURPOSE ENGLISH SADDLE (CAIR SYSTEM) | | | US $1,499.00 | 26d 8h 20m |
 | BATES Innova Dressage Saddle CAIR Easy-Change- Size 1 | | | US $2,607.35 | 25d 55m |
 | BATES Caprilli C.C. Saddle - Brown - 17.5 Regular | | | US $1,494.99 | 25d 12h 55m |
 | Demo Bates Caprilli Dressage Saddle 17" Black with CAIR, Free Gullet Kit | | | US $1,159.00 | 25d 7h 44m |
 | NEW Bates WIDE Dressage Saddle - CAIR - 17.5" - Package Deal | | | US $1,799.95 | 26d 9h 17m |
 | Bates All Purpose Saddle with Cair - 17 | | | US $1,386.05 | 24d 23h 14m |
 | NEW! Bates 17" ELEVATION Next Generation Jumping CC Saddle with CAIR, DEEP SEAT! | | | US $1,289.00 | 28d 13h 34m |
 | Bates Caprilli Close Contact Jumping Saddle adj 16.5" | | | US $1,350.00 | 20d 13h 55m |
 | Bates Hunter Jumper Close Contact Saddle adj 16.5" | | | US $1,175.00 | 20d 14h 24m |
 | Bates Isabell Dressage Saddle - 17.5 with CAIR | | | US $2,726.99 | 25d 2h 35m |
 | Bates Elevation Close Contact Jumping Saddle adj 17" | | | US $1,720.00 | 20d 14h 16m |
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As well as the CAIR system, do the bates saddles also have some wool flocking???
No. It supposedly like "riding on air". No wool, so everything can distribute evenly.
http://www.cairpanelsystem.com/noflash.htm
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