dressage saddles kieffer
has anyone used a kieffer wien dl professional dressage saddle?
i am wondering if the knee rolls are big and if it has a deep seat? i am looking for a dressage kieffer (as they are changeable) with big knee rolls and a deep seat. any information will help.
The Wien, all incarnations of it does have a deep seat, but very little knee roll. I do love it; it was the first good dressage saddle I bought for myself 30 years ago. I still have it, but it doesn't fit any of the horses I have now.
Yes, it is adjustable, but not infinitely. A master saddler must do it; it has a thermoplastic tree. One of the problems I came across with it is that you really only get to mold it twice, after that, the thermoplastic tends to twist, and you have to get a new tree put in. The adjustments are about $500, and the new tree was $800.
While I really love this saddle, it is designed half a century ago when horses were slighter in build. They had smaller bone and their spinous processes were narrower. The channel between the panels is very narrow, and on today's broader horses, they can pinch. My horses are just too broad (they still only use medium to medium wide trees mostly) not in size of the saddle, but the size of their bones. It does work really well for TBs and many Arabs, and certainly the German Sport Pony.
The saddle that Kieffer makes that is a newer design, with a wider space between the panels is the Kieffer Wallstreet. http://www.dressageextensions.com/ProductDetail.asp?KEY=33281 This saddle is quite deep and has large kneerolls.
and the Paris to a lesser extent; it's not as deep http://www.usedsaddleshop.com/KIEFFER-Paris-Exclusive-BRAND-NEW-2041.htm?categoryId=-1
Just FYI, Kieffer makes the Anky saddle http://www.statelinetack.com/item/anky-buffalo-dressage-saddle-free-lthrs/SLT900142/?srccode=MRSLGOOG&mr:trackingCode=ABE5FC57-7D81-DE11-9973-0019B9C2BEFD&mr:referralID=NA and it's a little less deep but with a good knee roll. It works very well for people with large thighs, but it puts (me at least) in a bit of a chair seat. It also has a short flap (unless ordered in a long version which gets it to a 'normal' length of flap.) so it's great for the under 5'5" crowd.
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